THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV
Chapter 6 - The First Interview with Smerdyakov
THIS was the third time that Ivan had been to see Smerdyakov since
his return from Moscow. The first time he had seen him and talked to
him was on the first day of his arrival, then he had visited him
once more, a fortnight later. But his visits had ended with that
second one, so that it was now over a month since he had seen him. And
he had scarcely heard anything of him.
Ivan had only returned five days after his father's death, so that
he was not present at the funeral, which took place the day before
he came back. The cause of his delay was that Alyosha, not knowing his
Moscow address, had to apply to Katerina Ivanovna to telegraph to him,
and she, not knowing his address either, telegraphed to her sister and
aunt, reckoning on Ivan's going to see them as soon as he arrived in
Moscow. But he did not go to them till four days after his arrival.
When he got the telegram, he had, of course, set off post-haste to our
town. The first to meet him was Alyosha, and Ivan was greatly
surprised to find that, in opposition to the general opinion of the
town, he refused to entertain a suspicion against Mitya, and spoke
openly of Smerdyakov as the murderer. Later on, after seeing the
police captain and the prosecutor, and hearing the details of the
charge and the arrest, he was still more surprised at Alyosha, and
ascribed his opinion only to his exaggerated brotherly feeling and
sympathy with Mitya, of whom Alyosha, as Ivan knew, was very fond.
By the way, let us say a word or two of Ivan's feeling to his
brother Dmitri. He positively disliked him; at most, felt sometimes
a compassion for him, and even that was mixed with great contempt,
almost repugnance. Mitya's whole personality, even his appearance, was
extremely unattractive to him. Ivan looked with indignation on
Katerina Ivanovna's love for his brother. Yet he went to see Mitya
on the first day of his arrival, and that interview, far from
shaking Ivan's belief in his guilt, positively strengthened it. He
found his brother agitated, nervously excited. Mitya had been
talkative, but very absent-minded and incoherent. He used violent
language, accused Smerdyakov, and was fearfully muddled. He talked
principally about the three thousand roubles, which he said had been
"stolen" from him by his father.
"The money was mine, it was my money," Mitya kept repeating. "Even
if I had stolen it, I should have had the right."
He hardly contested the evidence against him, and if he tried to
turn a fact to his advantage, it was in an absurd and incoherent
way. He hardly seemed to wish to defend himself to Ivan or anyone
else. Quite the contrary, he was angry and proudly scornful of the
charges against him; he was continually firing up and abusing
everyone. He only laughed contemptuously at Grigory's evidence about
the open door, and declared that it was "the devil that opened it."
But he could not bring forward any coherent explanation of the fact.
He even succeeded in insulting Ivan during their first interview,
telling him sharply that it was not for people who declared that
"everything was lawful," to suspect and question him. Altogether he
was anything but friendly with Ivan on that occasion. Immediately
after that interview with Mitya, Ivan went for the first time to see
Smerdyakov.
In the railway train on his way from Moscow, he kept thinking of
Smerdyakov and of his last conversation with him on the evening before
he went away. Many things seemed to him puzzling and suspicious.
when he gave his evidence to the investigating lawyer Ivan said
nothing, for the time, of that conversation. He put that off till he
had seen Smerdyakov, who was at that time in the hospital.
Doctor Herzenstube and Varvinsky, the doctor he met in the
hospital, confidently asserted in reply to Ivan's persistent
questions, that Smerdyakov's epileptic attack was unmistakably
genuine, and were surprised indeed at Ivan asking whether he might not
have been shamming on the day of the catastrophe. They gave him to
understand that the attack was an exceptional one, the fits persisting
and recurring several times, so that the patient's life was positively
in danger, and it was only now, after they had applied remedies,
that they could assert with confidence that the patient would survive.
"Though it might well be," added Doctor Herzenstube, "that his
reason would be impaired for a considerable period, if not
permanently." On Ivan's asking impatiently whether that meant that
he was now mad, they told him that this was not yet the case, in the
full sense of the word, but that certain abnormalities were
perceptible. Ivan decided to find out for himself what those
abnormalities were.
At the hospital he was at once allowed to see the patient.
Smerdyakov was lying on a truckle-bed in a separate ward. There was
only one other bed in the room, and in it lay a tradesman of the town,
swollen with dropsy, who was obviously almost dying; he could be no
hindrance to their conversation. Smerdyakov grinned uncertainly on
seeing Ivan, and for the first instant seemed nervous. So at least
Ivan fancied. But that was only momentary. For the rest of the time he
was struck, on the contrary, by Smerdyakov's composure. From the first
glance Ivan had no doubt that he was very ill. He was very weak; he
spoke slowly, seeming to move his tongue with difficulty; he was
much thinner and sallower.Throughout the interview, which lasted
twenty minutes, he kept complaining of headache and of pain in all his
limbs. His thin emasculate face seemed to have become so tiny; his
hair was ruffled, and his crest of curls in front stood up in a thin
tuft. But in the left eye, which was screwed up and seemed to be
insinuating something, Smerdyakov showed himself unchanged. "It's
always worth while speaking to a clever man." Ivan was reminded of
that at once. He sat down on the stool at his feet. Smerdyakov, with
painful effort, shifted his position in bed, but he was not the
first to speak. He remained dumb, and did not even look much
interested.
"Can you. talk to me?" asked Ivan. "I won't tire you much."
"Certainly I can," mumbled Smerdyakov, in a faint voice. "Has your
honour been back long?" he added patronisingly, as though
encouraging a nervous visitor.
"I only arrived to-day.... To see the mess you are in here."
Smerdyakov sighed.
"Why do you sigh? You knew of it all along," Ivan blurted out.
Smerdyakov was stolidly silent for a while.
"How could I help knowing? It was clear beforehand. But how
could I tell it would turn out like that?"
"What would turn out? Don't prevaricate! You've foretold you'd
have a fit; on the way down to the cellar, you know. You mentioned the
very spot."
"Have you said so at the examination yet?" Smerdyakov queried with
composure.
Ivan felt suddenly angry.
"No, I haven't yet, but I certainly shall. You must explain a
great deal to me, my man; and let me tell you, I am not going to let
you play with me!"
"Why should I play with you, when I put my whole trust in you,
as in God Almighty?" said Smerdyakov, with the same composure, only
for a moment closing his eyes.
"In the first place," began Ivan, "I know that epileptic fits
can't be told beforehand. I've inquired; don't try and take me in. You
can't foretell the day and the hour. How was it you told me the day
and the hour beforehand, and about the cellar, too? How could you tell
that you would fall down the cellar stairs in a fit, if you didn't
sham a fit on purpose?"
"I had to go to the cellar anyway, several times a day, indeed,"
Smerdyakov drawled deliberately. "I fell from the garret just in the
same way a year ago. It's quite true you can't tell the day and hour
of a fit beforehand, but you can always have a presentiment of it."
"But you did foretell the day and the hour!"
"In regard to my epilepsy, sir, you had much better inquire of the
doctors here. You can ask them whether it was a real fit or a sham;
it's no use my saying any more about it."
"And the cellar? How could you know beforehand of the cellar?"
"You don't seem able to get over that cellar! As I was going
down to the cellar, I was in terrible dread and doubt. What frightened
me most was losing you and being left without defence in all the
world. So I went down into the cellar thinking, 'Here, it'll come on
directly, it'll strike me down directly, shall I fall?' And it was
through this fear that I suddenly felt the spasm that always
comes... and so I went flying. All that and all my previous
conversation with you at the gate the evening before, when I told
you how frightened I was and spoke of the cellar, I told all that to
Doctor Herzenstube and Nikolay Parfenovitch, the investigating lawyer,
and it's all been written down in the protocol. And the doctor here,
Mr. Varvinsky, maintained to all of them that it was just the
thought of it brought it on, the apprehension that I might fall. It
was just then that the fit seized me. And so they've written it
down, that it's just how it must have happened, simply from my fear."
As he finished, Smerdyakov. drew a deep breath, as though
exhausted.
"Then you have said all that in your evidence?" said Ivan,
somewhat taken aback. He had meant to frighten him with the threat
of repeating their conversation, and it appeared that Smerdyakov had
already reported it all himself.
"What have I to be afraid of? Let them write down the whole
truth," Smerdyakov pronounced firmly.
"And have you told them every word of our conversation at the
gate?"
"No, not to say every word."
"And did you tell them that you can sham fits, as you boasted
then?"
"No, I didn't tell them that either."
"Tell me now, why did you send me then to Tchermashnya?"
"I was afraid you'd go away to Moscow; Tchermashnya is nearer,
anyway."
"You are lying; you suggested my going away yourself; you told
me to get out of the way of trouble."
"That was simply out of affection and my sincere devotion to
you, foreseeing trouble in the house, to spare you. Only I wanted to
spare myself even more. That's why I told you to get out of harm's
way, that you might understand that there would be trouble in the
house, and would remain at home to protect your father."
"You might have said it more directly, you blockhead!" Ivan
suddenly fired up.
"How could I have said it more directly then? It was simply my
fear that made me speak, and you might have been angry, too. I might
well have been apprehensive that Dmitri Fyodorovitch would make a
scene and carry away that money, for he considered it as good as
his own; but who could tell that it would end in a murder like this? I
thought that he would only carry off the three thousand that lay under
the master's mattress in the envelope, and you see, he's murdered him.
How could you guess it either, sir?"
"But if you say yourself that it couldn't be guessed, how could
I have guessed and stayed at home? You contradict yourself!" said
Ivan, pondering.
"You might have guessed from my sending you to Tchermashnya and
not to Moscow."
"How could I guess it from that?"
Smerdyakov seemed much exhausted, and again he was silent for a
minute.
"You might have guessed from the fact of my asking you not to go
to Moscow, but to Tchermashnya, that I wanted to have you nearer,
for Moscow's a long way off, and Dmitri Fyodorovitch, knowing you
are not far off, would not be so bold. And if anything had happened,
you might have come to protect me, too, for I warned you of Grigory
Vassilyevitch's illness, and that I was afraid of having a fit. And
when I explained those knocks to you, by means of which one could go
in to the deceased, and that Dmitri Fyodorovitch knew them all through
me, I thought that you would guess yourself that he would be sure to
do something, and so wouldn't go to Tchermashnya even, but would
stay."
"He talks very coherently," thought Ivan, "though he does
mumble; what's the derangement of his faculties that Herzenstube
talked of?"
"You are cunning with me, damn you!" he exclaimed, getting angry.
"But I thought at the time that you quite guessed," Smerdyakov
parried with the simplest air.
"If I'd guessed, I should have stayed," cried Ivan.
"Why, I thought that it was because you guessed, that you went
away in such a hurry, only to get out of trouble, only to run away and
save yourself in your fright."
"You think that everyone is as great a coward as yourself?"
"Forgive me, I thought you were like me."
"Of course, I ought to have guessed," Ivan said in agitation; "and
I did guess there was some mischief brewing on your part... only you
are lying, you are lying again," he cried, suddenly recollecting.
"Do you remember how you went up to the carriage and said to me, 'It's
always worth while speaking to a clever man'? So you were glad I
went away, since you praised me?"
Smerdyakov sighed again and again. A trace of colour came into his
face.
"If I was pleased," he articulated rather breathlessly, "it was
simply because you agreed not to go to Moscow, but to Tchermashnya.
For it was nearer, anyway. Only when I said these words to you, it was
not by way of praise, but of reproach. You didn't understand it."
"What reproach?"
"Why, that foreseeing such a calamity you deserted your own
father, and would not protect us, for I might have been taken up any
time for stealing that three thousand."
"Damn you!" Ivan swore again. "Stay, did you tell the prosecutor
and the investigating lawyer about those knocks?"
"I told them everything just as it was."
Ivan wondered inwardly again.
"If I thought of anything then," he began again, "it was solely of
some wickedness on your part. Dmitri might kill him, but that he would
steal- I did not believe that then.... But I was prepared for any
wickedness from you. You told me yourself you could sham a fit. What
did you say that for?"
"It was just through my simplicity, and I never have shammed a fit
on purpose in my life. And I only said so then to boast to you. It was
just foolishness. I liked you so much then, and was open-hearted
with you."
"My brother directly accuses you of the murder and theft."
"What else is left for him to do?" said Smerdyakov, with a
bitter grin. "And who will believe him with all the proofs against
him? Grigory Vassilyevitch saw the door open. What can he say after
that? But never mind him! He is trembling to save himself."
He slowly ceased speaking; then suddenly, as though on reflection,
added:
"And look here again. He wants to throw it on me and make out that
it is the work of my hands- I've heard that already. But as to my
being clever at shamming a fit: should I have told you beforehand that
I could sham one, if I really had had such a design against your
father? If I had been planning such a murder could I have been such
a fool as to give such evidence against myself beforehand? And to
his son, too! Upon my word! Is that likely? As if that could be;
such a thing has never happened. No one hears this talk of ours now,
except Providence itself, and if you were to tell of it to the
prosecutor and Nikolay Parfenovitch you might defend me completely
by doing so, for who would be likely to be such a criminal, if he is
so open-hearted beforehand? Anyone can see that."
"Well," and Ivan got up to cut short the conversation, struck by
Smerdyakov's last argument. "I don't suspect you at all, and I think
it's absurd, indeed, to suspect you. On the contrary, I am grateful to
you for setting my mind at rest. Now I am going, but I'll come
again. Meanwhile, good-bye. Get well. Is there anything you want?"
"I am very thankful for everything. Marfa Ignatyevna does not
forget me, and provides me anything I want, according to her kindness.
Good people visit me every day."
"Good-bye. But I shan't say anything of your being able to sham
a fit, and I don't advise you to, either," something made Ivan say
suddenly.
"I quite understand. And if you don't speak of that, I shall say
nothing of that conversation of ours at the gate."
Then it happened that Ivan went out, and only when he had gone a
dozen steps along the corridor, he suddenly felt that there was an
insulting significance in Smerdyakov's last words. He was almost on
the point of turning back, but it was only a passing impulse, and
muttering, "Nonsense!" he went out of the hospital.
His chief feeling was one of relief at the fact that it was not
Smerdyakov, but Mitya, who had committed the murder, though he might
have been expected to feel the opposite. He did not want to analyse
the reason for this feeling, and even felt a positive repugnance at
prying into his sensations. He felt as though he wanted to make
haste to forget something. In the following days he became convinced
of Mitya's guilt, as he got to know all the weight of evidence against
him. There was evidence of people of no importance, Fenya and her
mother, for instance, but the effect of it was almost overpowering. As
to Perhotin, the people at the tavern, and at Plotnikov's shop, as
well as the witnesses at Mokroe, their evidence seemed conclusive.
It was the details that were so damning. The secret of the knocks
impressed the lawyers almost as much as Grigory's evidence as to the
open door. Grigory's wife, Marfa, in answer to Ivan's questions,
declared that Smerdyakov had been lying all night the other side of
the partition wall, "He was not three paces from our bed," and that
although she was a sound sleeper she waked several times and heard him
moaning, "He was moaning the whole time, moaning continually."
Talking to Herzenstube, and giving it as his opinion that
Smerdyakov was not mad, but only rather weak, Ivan only evoked from
the old man a subtle smile.
"Do you know how he spends his time now?" he asked; "learning
lists of French words by heart. He has an exercise-book under his
pillow with the French words written out in Russian letters for him by
someone, he he he!"
Ivan ended by dismissing all doubts. He could not think of
Dmitri without repulsion. Only one thing was strange, however. Alyosha
persisted that Dmitri was not the murderer, and that "in all
probability" Smerdyakov was. Ivan always felt that Alyosha's opinion
meant a great deal to him, and so he was astonished at it now. Another
thing that was strange was that Alyosha did not make any attempt to
talk about Mitya with Ivan, that he never began on the subject and
only answered his questions. This, too, struck Ivan particularly.
But he was very much preoccupied at that time with something quite
apart from that. On his return from Moscow, he abandoned himself
hopelessly to his mad and consuming passion for Katerina Ivanovna.
This is not the time to begin to speak of this new passion of
Ivan's, which left its mark on all the rest of his life: this would
furnish the subject for another novel, which I may perhaps never
write. But I cannot omit to mention here that when Ivan, on leaving
Katerina Ivanovna with Alyosha, as I've related already, told him,
"I am not keen on her," it was an absolute lie: he loved her madly,
though at times he hated her so that he might have murdered her.
Many causes helped to bring about this feeling. Shattered by what
had happened with Mitya, she rushed on Ivan's return to meet him as
her one salvation. She was hurt, insulted and humiliated in her
feelings. And here the man had come back to her, who had loved her
so ardently before (oh! she knew that very well), and whose heart
and intellect she considered so superior to her own. But the sternly
virtuous girl did not abandon herself altogether to the man she loved,
in spite of the Karamazov violence of his passions and the great
fascination he had for her. She was continually tormented at the
same time by remorse for having deserted Mitya, and in moments of
discord and violent anger (and they were numerous) she told Ivan so
plainly. This was what he had called to Alyosha "lies upon lies."
There was, of course, much that was false in it, and that angered Ivan
more than anything.... But of all this later.
He did, in fact, for a time almost forget Smerdyakov's
existence, and yet, a fortnight after his first visit to him, he began
to be haunted by the same strange thoughts as before. It's enough to
say that he was continually asking himself, why was it that on that
last night in Fyodor Pavlovitch's house he had crept out on to the
stairs like a thief and listened to hear what his father was doing
below? Why had he recalled that afterwards with repulsion? Why next
morning, had he been suddenly so depressed on the journey? Why, as
he reached Moscow, had he said to himself, "I am a scoundrel"? And now
he almost fancied that these tormenting thoughts would make him even
forget Katerina Ivanovna, so completely did they take possession of
him again. It was just after fancying this, that he met Alyosha in the
street. He stopped him at once, and put a question to him:
"Do you remember when Dmitri burst in after dinner and beat
father, and afterwards I told you in the yard that I reserved 'the
right to desire'?... Tell me, did you think then that I desired
father's death or not?"
"I did think so," answered Alyosha, softly.
"It was so, too; it was not a matter of guessing. But didn't you
fancy then that what I wished was just that one reptile should
devour another'; that is, just that Dmitri should kill father, and
as soon as possible... and that I myself was even prepared to help
to bring that about?"
Alyosha turned rather pale, and looked silently into his brother's
face.
"Speak!" cried Ivan, "I want above everything to know what you
thought then. I want the truth, the truth!"
He drew a deep breath, looking angrily at Alyosha before his
answer came.
"Forgive me, I did think that, too, at the time," whispered
Alyosha, and he did not add one softening phrase.
"Thanks," snapped Ivan, and, leaving Alyosha, he went quickly on
his way. From that time Alyosha noticed that Ivan began obviously to
avoid him and seemed even to have taken a dislike to him, so much so
that Alyosha gave up going to see him. Immediately after that
meeting with him, Ivan had not gone home, but went straight to
Smerdyakov again.